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Old 09-25-2006, 02:22 AM
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How to help black ocellaris turn full black

Black ocellaris babies are born with orange color and slowly turn black, with the tip of the mouth the last part ot turn black.

I am wondering if anybody know the trick to get them turn black faster. Some does say that they will turn eventually in a year or so, however from my observation between my friend and I, I noticed that putting them under bright lighting (MH) will help them turn completely black faster than putting them in NO flourscent. This observation was seen using the same food.

Anybody can share their observation regarding this topic?

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idione.. may help
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idione.. may help
idodine in food or just idiodine in water?
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is it jus tme or is the spelling out of control!!! do we mean iodine? or iodide? or is one of the other 3 spellings right.

and to answer the question, a black tank helps, and im not surprised if you give them heaps of light they go black, im sure colour has a uv inhibiting component.

I was also told once by a uni lecturer in nutrition of aquaculture fish, high protien diet might help.

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is it jus tme

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or is the spelling out of control
yep!!!:)

i purchased a "pair" of ocellaris, under 250w halide the male turned maybe 75% black, now the pair have been moved where they get very little light at the moment, and he has gone back to being almost all orange.
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yep!!!:)

i purchased a "pair" of ocellaris, under 250w halide the male turned maybe 75% black, now the pair have been moved where they get very little light at the moment, and he has gone back to being almost all orange.
Is the ocellaris suppose to be the orange type or the black type to begin with?
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well natural light would be best but mh is the next best thing i guess, the was an experiment on sharks and why deep water ones were lighter than shallow water and when the moved the deep ones into the shallow they deposited more pigments to protect against uv.

now for the nutrions facts-carotenoids are very helpfull(canthaxanthin, astaxanthin, beta carotene, also capxanthin, and xanthophyl) and protein particularly tyrosine will have a effect on pigmenting.

tyrosine is used in humans to help make melanin.
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Is the ocellaris suppose to be the orange type or the black type to begin with?
they were a "pair" of orange
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now for the nutrions facts-carotenoids are very helpfull(canthaxanthin, astaxanthin, beta carotene, also capxanthin, and xanthophyl) and protein particularly tyrosine will have a effect on pigmenting.

tyrosine is used in humans to help make melanin.
So how will add those to my clownfish food? Like mince carrots into the clownfish's food?

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not to sure about the lighting thing
i have 4 true percs that are orange and are starting to turn black they were housed under 13watt pc lighting and are now under 2 39watt T5's
size appox 1"

i have 2 black o's 1/2" long,they have the orange nose never seen metal halide untill upto 2 weeks ago,theyre not really getting bright light as there light is shaded and they are black.
but then again animals do change color due to lighting.

im sure foods may have a better chance of changing pigments.

be carefull with carotene as long time use can actually due harm to animals.
my father used to breed canaries and he added carotene based foods to there dietsto give them that deep red color,long exposure to this will eventually harm there blood now a fish could be different.

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